Is this true about the new proposed health care plan?
mу step dad thinks thаt under obama’s nеw health care рlοt, people over thе age οf 80 wіll hаνе nο health insurance аt аll. I don’t rесkοn thаt’s rіght. Iѕ thіѕ rіght, аnd іf іt іѕ (οr isn’t rіght) whеrе саn I find out? Thanks
No it’s not right but Obama would rather if they just took a pain pill instead of any serious medical care.
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It’s the evil that the republicans are spewing. Did your Dad forget in this area pulling the plug on Grand Ma and death panels? Tell Daddy to stop watching FOX news, it’s no excellent for you.
You can read the various proposed bills to find out. What your stepdad probably thinks is that health care will be rationed for the elderly. That will probably happen. There will only be so much money to go around. It’s more likely to go to the young than the ancient.
just reckon in this area it..
the cost to cover each american in the country would
bankrupt it in a few years.
so to cut cost they would have to reduce care to those
who use it.. aka the sick..
who gets sick the most? the elderly
Not “technically”…BUT, if you look at the concept, trying to take the “same amount” of healthcare and spread it around over a greater number of people. You will see that SOME people will have to get less healthcare. After all, there’s only “this much” and there’s more people. If the government were to do what’s in their best interest, they will restrict lifesaving care to the ancient since their life is “worth less” because they have fewer remaining years to live. From their point of view, it makes sense to stop taking care of people who are going to “die anyway”.
It may not be “the point” of the program but it will be a result of it.
He will have health insurance but with government run medical insurance there will be rationing because there is no way to get around it. But you have rationing right now. The huge difference is you have a say in that rationing by being able to choose what insurance company to go with and what type of policy you get.
HR3200 does not specifically state this. But, the speculation is that in order to control cost, health care that is deemed non-essential may be limited at best. This comes from a statement that Obama made at one time that the elderly should take an aspirin or a pain pill and learn to deal with the pain, rather than having say a hip replacement.
You can get a copy of the bill in its bestow state (keep in mind that it is a work in progress) and what’s in there may or may not come to fruition.)
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c111:H.R.3200:
towards the upper left there is a link that says GPOs PDF Show
I personally oppose the bill. But no, that is not right. Not all of the bill is unadorned black and white. There are indications that elderly people (80 yrs ancient for instance) who be converted into extremely ill, or suffer major heart attacks etc, will be counciled to acknowledge death rather than recessitate.
I live in Massachusetts and a lot of what Obama wants Nationally is already in place here and I can tell you. Most of the ills of the midpoint and lower classes are treated with medications. They know the subject couldnt afford particular operations and so they simply evade ever mentioning them, and instead offer pain medications and blood thinners. These do not help for very long mind you. It isnt the same as a “death panel”, but they are trying to cut the cost of elder care and so “death panels” in the guise of care givers are a very real likelyhood.
Infact. I can attest to this in regards to my own grandmother, who chose she would not be recessitated. After that choice she was given morphine sulphate rather than oxycodone, and many of her other medications were modified. She died only 3 months shortly.
It’s not right, but if resources run thin there’s a excellent chance it will lead to rationing of care, and not because they want to, but because they would have to. Rahm Emanual’s brother said that younger people should be prioritized to receive care. It’s sick, but if you reckon in this area it, it makes sense. Seniors don’t contribute much to the government, more like they take from it, but they have contributed their total lives which is why I reckon they are entitled to a comfortable retirement. Others reckon differently, that we must solely invest in our future generation at the expense of seniors.
It’s not right.
He will take up again to have Medicare- probably his current, and Government run health care.
Medicare is a VERY well loved program, no politician wants to come between seniors and this program
I reckon your step dad probably heard the accusation that the House Health Care Bill Mandates or Encourages Euthanasia. It’s not right.
In fact, section 1233 of the House bill would allow Medicare for the first time to cover patient-doctor consultations in this area end-of-life plotting, including discussions in this area drawing up a living will or plotting rest home treatment. Patients would, of course, seek out such advice on their own — they would not be required to. The provision would limit Medicare coverage to one consultation each five years.
This would give your step dad full control in this area his life.
I’ve been having a similar conversation with my parents.
It is probably right.
The taxation base needed to float a viable health care is quite a lot. You have heard how much money it takes to support this.
Therefore the govt has no choice but to draw lines
Beyond a particular scope- there will be no more available health care. This is where countries who have govt run health care are most bitter in this area.
I am saying that before you all place this in, study it well, this is your life, and your future.
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Refer to by Adrian Rogers, 1931
“You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the
wealthy out of prosperity. What one self receives without working for,
a further self must work for without receiving.”
“The government cannot give to anyone anything that the government does
not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the thought
that they do not have to work Because the other half is going to take
care of them, and when the other half gets the thought that it does no excellent
to work because somebody else is going to get what theywork for, that my
dear friend, is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot
multiply wealth by dividing it.”
no it’s not right. The total ‘pain pill’ refer to is out of context as well.
You can always try factcheck.org for those sort of claims
do you people plot on not getting ancient