How is the health care plan not going to effect the deficit?
Anyone have any clue?
I meant “affect” and I was talking about HR3200.
How do we know that this won’t kill jobs in other fields?
Which fat are they going to cut out?
How are they going to do it?
I am not a Republican.
Joe Wilson should have shouted “YOU LIE!” after the “this won’t add one dime to the deficit” comment.
Any plan will add to the deficit.
Magic!
shhhh don’t wake up the sheeple……you aren’t suppose to use your own brain and figure that out…….
Any time a politician from either party tells you that they will pay for their plan by cutting fraud, waste and abuse you should get nervous. You have to wonder, if Obama is able to spot billions in waste, why does he need a health care bill to take action?
There is MORE than enough fat in the Government which can easily be cut.
And while we’re on the subject…. I’d like to comment on this “trillion dollar” wording I keep seeing the Reichtwingers toss around.
They keep conveniently leaving out the part that IT’S SPREAD OVER TEN YEARS.
Which is a mere 100 billion per year.
Which is a drop in the bucket compared with, oh…let’s see… the Iraq War? Hell, if we’d just get the hell out of a sovereign nation where we never had any business to BEGIN with….>BOOM<…..
. THERE’s the money for the health plan.
Oh, and by the way? How many billions do you think were going to be pis$ed away on a stupid “star wars” ballistic defense Big Ol’ Black Hole for tax dollars? Which every single expert on the face of the EARTH has said would NEVER work with any degree of accuracy?
There’s tonnage of FAT to be trimmed from Defense, for starters.
It is INSANE that this country spends more tax dollars on defense than the NEXT 17 COUNTRIES COMBINED.
Just …. …. INSANE. There is absolutely NO justification for it.
It will affect the deficit at first, however in the long run it will boost the economy as people will have more spending money because health care will not be driving people into the poorhouse as it is currently.
Nobody knows. There are currently six different bills out there, and none have been finalized or approved through Congress. Nobody has a clue what the final mess will be.
Actually, it is exactly Obama’s intention for Health Care Reform to affect the federal deficit…and that effect is to help lower it (since it will be paid for by the rise in income taxes on the wealthy when the Bush Tax Cuts expire next year, the added taxes on the insurance companies for mandating the insurance and by saving money making the system more efficient. Obama said all of these things in his speech to Congress but like most Conservative Republicans, all you heard was “You lie!”)
OF course it’not, even if it doesn’t the first few years, your taxes will go up to pay for it and your premiums as insurance companes will be taxed and passed along. As more money leaves the private sector, the amount of revenue the government gets is reduced there by making the income to expense ration even worse. This is by far the most fiscally irresponsible president and congress of all time.
It is. There is no way to deny that.
not only will it add to the already massive deficit, it will cause a huge tax increase that will eliminate any benefit we get from health savings. In the long run it will cost even more due to government waste, the lack of research dollars and increased fraud.
It will. They lie.
Unless America’s economy reacts VERY differently from every other countries throughout history that has moved from a predominantly private to a predominantly public system, the overall economy will benefit and the deficit will shrink; the “local economies” of multiple insurance companies and brokers will be devastated, however.
One of the major (but rarely-discussed) differences between, say, a widget factory in Canada (where they have “free”, ie tax-payer-funded healthcare) and a similar widget factory in the US is that the “down-time” is far, far higher in the US because sick people (who, for instance, did not get a ‘flu shot) come to work & infect everyone else.
In the US among those earning less than the median income, the number of work days lost to influenza is roughly 286 per 100 workers; in Canada, that number is only 143 per 100 workers. You have to ask yourself why that is, given that most of those Canadians get paid whether they go in or not (within reason, of course!)….do you seriously believe American workers are just more lazy than Canadian workers?
Because they’re going to eliminate all the waste in Medicare….
It truly worries me when the government proposes to pay for something by spending less money on that exact same thing.
That bill is longer than the Bible. I doubt if anybody really knows. The deficit is an imaginary number anyway as far as they’re concerned.
I’m no English teacher so however you say it works for me. Everyone of us will be affected by the Obama Administration’s plan for Health Insurance. Not Health Care, there is no care in it, only insurance money.
Those who don’ have ins will have it and those who don’t want it will pay a penalty and those who do have insurance will see the company decide to go Public, it will be cheaper. At first.
What do you mean, won’t kill jobs in other fields? It will end jobs in the insurance field as we know it. The Government will be the clearing house therefore all those folks who have studied the deductibles and co-pays for years, will no longer know the rules. The agents will not be able to know all that is needed, we’ll end up with a clearing house of phone answerer’s to tell us what is and what is not. And everybody except the Congress and the Military and the Unions, will end up in the pool. And after about the 8th year, the entire nation will be using the same health care payer, the government will be under water with the new program, just as they are now with Medicare and they will – be looking for a private solution. All this so the unions who are so top-heavy in costs stemming from their retirees, need a place to park them and get them off the union rolls.
Smoke and Mirrors, plus a generous contribution from a reduction in Medicare.
Way to go Water Over Gold,like your answer.
We’re talking trillions of dollars here, every time I here something about this price tag, I keep thinking we’re not idiots like you politicians would like to think we do know how to add up the figures. What the American middle class ends up with will be a big fat zero.
The health care plan will increase the deficit just like every other government program. The government is not going to “clean up the waste in medicare”. They are going to try to weasel this bill through the House and the Senate. From that point they will do whatever they can do to make sure that SEIU get taken care of at the expense of the American deficit. Never again will he current administration bring up the concept of “the plan not adding to the deficit” or “cleaning up the waste in medicare”. There agenda is SEIU.
I thought that after the Bush administration left that we may see the end of cronyism. Now we have actually cronies.